Testing JS-Kit

posted by jangro on (2 years, 9 months ago)

To complete the third leg of the comment system triathalon, I must test out JS-Kit. If you've been with me for a while, you've been through Disqus, Intense Debate, and of course regular Wordpress comments.

And now, I'm finally testing out JS-Kit's comment system since they just launched their new ECHO product.

I also thought I'd go bare-bones on the theme for a while and back off to using Thesis for a while. I'll customize it up a bit, bit I'm enjoying the blank canvas. I digress.

The promise of ECHO

ECHO has been touted as the "death of comments" by JS-Kit's CEO Khris Loux. His vision of how comments should work is that conversations happen all over the Internet, not just on a single blog post. People talk about blog posts everywhere, Facebook, Twitter, FriendFeed, etc. ECHO promises to pull all these discussions back into the blog post in real time.

This is a vision that I've shared for several years now, which is why I created BUMPzee back in 2007. I didn't have the time or funding to run with that project, and this is a different approach to the same idea, but I'm still on my endless quest for the perfect blog comment solution: get more people talking about blog posts, no matter where.

Notable Features

There are a few notable changes that this comment system brings.

First, it's Javascript-only. This was my major criticism of blog comment systems over the years as that keeps the comments out of the eyes of the search engines and the blog-owner loses the SEO benefit.

I decided to get over this particular hang up that I have.

Second, since ECHO allows authentication using a variety of services:

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There's really no excuse for someone to not be able to authenticate through one of those. I tested a few of these. Some work better than others. Hopefully this will put a big damper on the spammers.

Feel free to give it a try here. Comment away!


Comments & Reactions

  • jangro saved this to Blogging 2 years, 9 months ago
  • Posted by Shawn Collins 2 years, 9 months ago

    I like all of those authentication options.

    How does this work out with the comments interface in the WP admin. Do you still see pending comments and spam sitting there? If so, do you just ignore them and let them stack up?

    And my theme with WP comments doesn't get nesting or email notications to me when there is a new comment, even though that is selected. Do those work with this?

  • Posted by Andrew Girdwood 2 years, 9 months ago

    It's good that you can sign in with Twitter but then de-select the "to Twitter" option. In other words; I can use Twitter to direct this comment to you but not bother my main Twitter stream with it! :)

  • Posted by Scott Jangro 2 years, 9 months ago

    There appears to be little integration with the wordpress admin area. But the admin can see comments that need to be moderated right in the post. You can also moderate posts in js-kit.com. I'm still figuring it all out myself. This, btw, is an email reply.

  • Posted by Shawn Collins 2 years, 9 months ago

    Yeah, I didn't pay attention to the fact that it was going to hit my Twitter stream, but now see it's easy to remove that option.

  • Posted by Scott Jangro 2 years, 9 months ago

    So if you guys signed in via twitter, I wonder why your pictures aren't showing up.

    js-kit bug?  I've heard there are lots of bugs.

  • Posted by Benny 2 years, 9 months ago

    This is an awesome plugin. Really looking forward to the release. So far I'm having trouble adding my Facebook Profile, it says that is logging me in but it doesn't do anything from there.

  • Posted by Scott Jangro 2 years, 9 months ago

    I noticed the same on Facebook auhentication. I think something isn't set up properly. Thanks for testing.

  • Posted by Shawn Collins 2 years, 9 months ago

    I've noticed that I don't get alerts when there are new comments with the Twitter authentication. Not crazy about that lack of basic (I think it should be) functionality.

  • Posted by Scott Jangro 2 years, 9 months ago

    Did you check the Email Notification in the "follow" button at the bottom of the comment box?

  • Posted by Shawn Collins 2 years, 9 months ago

    No - I didn't drop that down. I should have poked around more, but since it wasn't obvious to me, I didn't think about it.

    I have to wonder how many people will bother to take that step to get to it. I don't see the purpose of hiding it.

  • Posted by Scott Jangro 2 years, 9 months ago

    Yeah, not sure.  

    It's all new, so they -- and we -- are surely figuring it all out.

  • Posted by Chris Saad 2 years, 9 months ago

    Hi Scott and eveyrone - thanks for trying out JS-Kit!

    Just a few notes to keep in mind.

    First this is not Echo yet. It is only the Echo skin. The full featured Echo (realtime comments and aggregation of conversation) is still on the way.

    Second, even though the comment system is pure JS, you can still get SEO juice. You can find out more about this here:
    http://wiki.js-kit.com/Admin+Guide+-+JS-Kit+Comments?SearchFor=SEO&sp=1#SearchEngineOptimizationSEOSupport

    We love continued feedback so please keep us posted about your ideas here:
    http://support.js-kit.com/jskit

    Thanks guys!!

  • Posted by Scott Jangro 2 years, 9 months ago

    Well then, flip the switch for me, will you?  Tech Crunch and Scoble have it. What am I, a Z-lister?  ;)

    Seriously, thanks for the info that this isn't really ECHO.  Something didn't seem quite right here.

    Interesting solution to the SEO issue. It doesn't put the content with the posts, but at least the comments are on my own domain. I'll set up the DNS and provide some links and see how that works.

  • Posted by Scott Jangro 2 years, 9 months ago

    So now is this the real echo?  It's difficult to tell the difference.

  • Posted by Katty 2 years, 9 months ago

    I'm testing here. I added my homepage too. Katty

  • Posted by Katty 2 years, 9 months ago

    Test #2. By the way, Chris Saad, your link to js-kit does not work as of 8/14/2009. Cheers Katty

  • Posted by Uday 2 years, 9 months ago

    I love the "pulling in of all discussions" feature of JS-Kit Echo.

  • Posted by Troy McConaghy 2 years, 8 months ago

    I was searching to see if anyone had a WordPress blog using both the Thesis WordPress Theme and JS-Kit ECHO. This post came up. My search is over.

  • Posted by Shawn Collins 2 years, 8 months ago

    So you're still using it a month later - does that mean you've decided this is the best solution?

    I want to move on from basic WP comments.

    Is this Echo Live, Pro or Partner?

  • Posted by Scott Jangro 2 years, 8 months ago

    I'm happy enough with it so far, though I took a serious break from writing much here this summer.  I'm hoping to get more active and will be able to form more of an opinion.

    This is Echo Pro, I believe.

  • Posted by Scott Jangro 2 years, 8 months ago

    Correction, this is Echo Live not pro.

  • Posted by Shawn Collins 2 years, 8 months ago

    Cool - thanks. I see Live is $12/year - I was thinking of getting it for a half dozen or so sites. Maybe I'll try it on one and see how it goes.

  • Posted by Scott Jangro 2 years, 8 months ago

    You can see on http://www.jangro.com/affiliate-marketing/pissing-off-google-doesnt-pay/" rel="nofollow">myhttp://www.jangro.com/affiliate-marketing/pissing-off-google-doesnt-pay/" rel="nofollow"> most recent post how Echo is pulling in mentions on twitter and other places.  Pretty cool, though a little redundant.  I can delete some of those if I want.  Unfortunately, it cannot pull in discussions from Facebook.  There's a great discussion going on there: 
    http://bit.ly/1Q552G

  • Posted by Shawn Collins 2 years, 8 months ago

    That's a shame on the FB part - I have my RSS pushed to Notes in FB, too, and it would be great to bridge the comments there with my blog.

  • Posted by Uday Sreekanth 2 years, 6 months ago

    Testing.

  • Posted by Mike Michaelson 2 years, 5 months ago

    I think Echo for commenting is very cool.

  • Posted by Mike Michaelson 2 years, 5 months ago

    I think Echo for commenting is very cool.

  • med_shady

    Posted by med_shady 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    plz can i tell me how you can be moderator when your instal js-kit in your siteweb ??


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