Thanks Scott ... TV is now working. Only "snag" I ran into was that the replacement fan did not have this foam type tape wrapped around the perimeter as the original fan. It would appear that it's for vibration, but it also makes the fan's size larger which "holds" it in place once you puch it up into it's assembly. Only other thing that holds it in place is a small metal bracket held by 2 small screws. I ended up going to Lowes to buy some outlet cover weather proofing foam (very thin) & cut out 4 1" wide strips to lay on all 4 sides of the fan & then taped it around with black electrical tape before pushing it back into the assembly ... the set now works again. I sent Samsung an e-mail inquiring why they don't have that attached to the part already as you couldn't take it off of the old one to put on the new one.
Well, I had been having pretty good luck with my HLM507WX. Bought it in March of '03. Replaced the fan myself in May of '05. Then this month, the CHECK THE FAN 2 message started coming up. I could bump the back of the set and make it go away for a long while, but it would eventually come back on. Using your excellent instructions, I replaced it today. I verified that the new fan was turning, and buttoned everything back up. After watching for about 30 minutes, the CHECK THE FAN 2 message came back!. Again, I could bump the set and make it go away. The fan connector seemed to latch and be snug when I attached it. Any suggestions?
Good information. I decided to replace my fan but was surprised when I opened the box and to check it out. Here's what I found. As noted, the Check Fan 2 message came on. I removed the back from the TV to get to the fan. I wanted to see if the fan stopped rotating so I defeated the interlock and turned the TV on. The fan started running. After a few minutes the Check Fan 2 Message wqas displayed. The fan continued to run even though the message indicated it had stopped or at least slowed down!
I got the make and model from the back of the fan and went to the manufacturer's web site. The model is a G9225L12B2FS. The web site is
http://www.oec.co.kr.
According to the web site this is a Tube Axial fan, 12VDC with a locked rotor output. As I understand this means that a signal is produced when the rotor locks (fans stops running). According the website the output signal goes high when the rotor locks.
I thought I may be able to trick it by pulling the signal to ground but first wanted to see what happened when the fan wasn't turning. I unplugged the fan from the circuit board (3 pin connector) and turned on the TV. Got a new message, Check Fan 2 and Fan 3. Where's fan 3?
So I buttoned the tv back up and decided I need more information. Anyone have any comments or ideas?
I have a HLN5065WX that has what appears to be an overheating problem. About two weeks ago, after the set was on for about 2 hours the picture developed flashing staticy bars with flashing negative type colors of the images. Watchable but just barely. After you turned the set off for an hour it was okay for about 1 1/2 hrs then started again. I thought maybe the lamp was deteriorating so I ordered one (+ a spare) next day. Installed a new lamp and it was good for 5 hrs. Now it is back to the 1 hour of good viewing, turn off and wait 30 min for another hr. SUGGESTIONS ?? FAN??
I have the same quetion as Tim. My DLP is making a horrible screaming sound. Sometimes is worst than others but it always quiets down eventually, maybe as much as 30 minutes after turning the set on. I had assumed it was the fan until Ire a about the color wheel which is in a similar position. Is there any way to tell if it is the color wheel or the fan making the noice? TIA, Carol
Carol, these type of fans are also used on some types of computers. I've seen a lot of them, but have never heard this type of noise. Normally they just quit. Based on that, I'd suspect the color wheel.
I am wondering, based on Bill's story, if we are replacing fan 3 rather than 2. If so, where is fan 2 after all? I even bought the service manual, and it's no help.
I have a Samsung HLN507W1X and it is making some kind of ticking noise, sounds like the fan is too hot, or maybe the lamp is too hot. Cant really tell where it's coming from without opening it, but there is alot of heat coming out of the back. Before I have a repairman come out and look at it, any suggestions as to what this could be?
my samsung is a model hlp5663w - 56" set bought in 2004. it is flashing the check fan #2, but recently we have been hearing a grinding noise in the set. also, several times we have turned set on and the color is off - too red or blue tints. we turn it off and wait several minutes and then when restart it is fine. do you think the color wheel is the real issue and not the fan #2? or both? does the tv flash a message "color wheel"? i would hate to take whole thing apart only to have to do it again for the color wheel.
please advise.
I got the "Check Fan No. 3" message today. After some searching I wound up here. I see that others have had this same fan 3 message but nobody has said that they know where fan 3 is. Has anyone definitely figured out what/where fan 3 is? My theory is that fan 3 and fan 2 are the same, depending on model (I have HLN507WX). I can look through the back when I first turn on the TV and see the fan sputtering to get going. So if it is the fan I can see, based on everyone elses accounts, it seems like fan 2 and 3 are the same. I would like some confirmation of this before I purchase the fan that I think I need only to find out that I am wrong.
have a HLN5065NX, had to change the color wheel myself after 2 years and now have the black and white problem i've read about. TV turns on ok but after a while picture goes black with white pixels of last frame and then the three blinking lights (two green one red) go on.
i've read it could be the lamp, faulty fan(s) or faulty DMD. don't know which one's the problem on my set but i did notice that the air flow at the back of the TV is not as strong as it used to be so i'm thinking it's an overheating problem. just like a computer if the components overheat weird stuff starts happening.
i'm going to replace the fans and give the TV a air cleaning. I'll post my results.
great site BTW Scott, i had documented and taken pictures of the last time i changed my color wheel and had planed on posting something similar but you bet me to it. great job, must have saved many people lots of coin!
I also have a Samsung 50' TV. My problem is that I hear a reving sound when I turn the TV on. Sometimes the noise is loud, other times it's faint. After a few seconds, the sound sometimes stops. There are times, I can still hear the faint sound while watching TV. I have replaced my lamp on two occasions. The first time the lamp lasted for three months, the second time it lasted for a few weeks. Keep in mind that the 'noise' was apparent before the first lamp went out as well as the second time. Could the frequent changing of the lamp be due to a faulting cooling fan? I am not going to watch my TV again until I figure out the problem. I don't want to have to make another trip to the TV store to replace the lamp. I took the panel off the back of the TV and cleaned around the fan. There was very minimum dust. I don't believe my TV is too old. I won it in a raffle in 2005. Any information will be greatly appreciated.
mel, most likely the noise is your color wheel:
http://www.jangro.com/a/2006/07/24/samsung-dlp-replace-color-wheel/
mel, most likely the noise is your color wheel:
http://www.jangro.com/a/2006/07/24/samsung-dlp-...' href='http://www.jangro.com/a/2006/07/24/samsung-dlp-replace-color-wheel/">http://www.jangro.com/a/2006/07/24/samsung-dlp-...'>http://www.jangro.com/a/2006/07/24/samsung-dlp-replace-color-wheel/">http://www.jangro.com/a/2006/07/24/samsung-dlp-...
In response to the inquiry about fan #3; I've just replaced all 3 of the fans in my 50" DLP. I found fan #3 under what I think is the DMD board. That silver perferated wrapped board in the center in the rear. I still get the "Check fan #3" message on the screen and the set still shuts down after 2-3 minutes. Does anyone know what to do about this? Is there a fuse that governs fan #3 that can be replaced? Or do I need to replace the DMD board? I'd really like to see Tiger win his firs major this year, today! Thanks for your responses.
I had the same message, check fan #2. I ordered the part from the recommended site and just changed it. Unfortunately, it's still not working. There's a red temperature warning light on the front of the TV that is on. When I turn the TV on, it shuts off after 2 seconds. I just checked the fans, both are working. What next?
All who have fan issues.
I've jsut been informed by a disgruntled technician, that I need to replace the DPB digital power board for $325 intalled. This after replacing & installing myself the colorwheel, lamp and all 3 fans for $490 on parts.
Samsung should ashamed. they could have atleast provided a disclaimer with these sets at purchase, that they only last 3 yrs. Major components in a $3000 TV should last longer than 3 years regardless of usage. I'm ready to jump ship to another mfgr. Samsung Sucks!
Regarding your fans; get ready to replace em all and likely much more.
To Bradc, All of my fans are working like yours but I still get the "check fan #3" msg. Based on the technicians diagnosis, it seems the DPB board is getting hotter than the fan can cool it, so the msg appears. The program must be limited to that msg when this occurs. The only option is to take it in for service. (bring vasoline)
To Bradc,
All of my fans are working like yours but I still get the "check fan #3" msg. Based on the technicians diagnosis, it seems the DPB board is getting hotter than the fan can cool it, so the msg appears. The program must be limited to that msg when this occurs. The only option is to take it in for service.
(bring vasoline)
I replaced fan #2 and it works fine, so far for about 3 weeks. Once you get the hang of it, the fan is easy to replace. It's just annoying that I had to change it after onky 13 months of owning the tv. I guess I'm fortunate it didn't cost me more. I agree: Samsung Sucks! I'll never buy another product of theirs.
Purchased a samsung dlp model hl-r5667w almost 2yrs ago.After about a year the tv would shut off by itself and the lamp light would blink a few seconds and go off,i replaced the lamp thinking that was it but it did it again within a day or two and does it still.Maybe once or twice a month it does it,but other than that still have a great picture.What could cause this?
The screaming or loud noise you all are talking about is coming from the color wheel. Mine did the same thing. I replaced the color wheel and found out it was shattered. The color pieces broke. So it makes noise. For those with the older DLP's you might also want to replaced the balance. The newer lamp assembly might not be good enough for the old balance. My TV came with the older BIG LAMPBULB, the newer ones, the bulb is much smaller. Also, always use PHILLIP BULBS.
Well... My 50" HL-S5086w is making the buzzing sound but, no on screen messages. SamsungUSA.com says it is the cooling fan. A whining noise would be the color wheel. The repairman I called for an estimate says it's the color wheel anyway and wants over $500 to repair this $1700 TV I bought July 06. Also, repairman says to buy Hitachi next time as he has almost no calls on that one.
Hi folks, My DLP HLN507WX gave me the 3 blinking lights one morning. Ordered a replacement lamp from Samsung parts and replaced the lamp, no luck, still get the 3 blinking lights. I noticed that the set beeps when I turn it on and the green light keeps blinking before all three start blinking. I don't hear the fan running in the background and am wondering if it's the fan. Never got any FAN related message ever. The TV won't come on and I'm wondering if anybody else has had this type of a problem. Any help is much appreciated. PCK
I have an HLN5065WX/XAA that has worked great for 2-3 years. Today, my son tells me that he turned it on earlier, it ran for about 5 minutes, then shut itself off. I now see that the red TEMP light on the front is on, but no other issues now after 10-15 minutes running. No owners manual - floor model at purchase. Any ideas, predictions, or warning instructions??? It sounds like I just need to prepare to buy an LCD...
Hi Pck!
i suggest open the back and check all the fans and do general cleaning with a vacuum carefully. check all connections and then try again. green light blinking is standby state when it first turns on. Service manual states that 3 lights blinking means "It may have a fault or has burned out." and to replace the lamp. since that didnt work, I guess the next thing is the inverter that powers the lamp. hope that helps.
Hi Don! same like PCK, open the back and clean out with a vacuum. the DLP is like a computer, if the heat sinks are clogged with dust. it will heat up and actually kill the fans if it hasnt already. just be careful. that should help with the temp problems.
like my previous comment. heat kills electronics. make sure the unit is well ventilated. if not help it by adding an exhaust fan.
I am not a DLP techie, I'm a PC techie, and the problems are similar enough...
Hi Again PCK,
I forgot to mention a few other things. the inverter/ballast get its 380v power from the power supply assuming that is good. then it could be just the ballast. assuming the ballast is good. then please check loose connectors. otherwise it might be the digital board or the DMD itself...an expensive repair.
Hello all,
i was looking at the schematics, and if i am not mistaken, it seems that these 12v fans are being driven at only 7-8volts. at least thats what i read from the SM of the HLN series...
i did notice that they dont run at full speed. that should help them last longer, reduce the noise and also suck in less dust...
Hello Again Don,
link to user manual.
http://www.retrevo.com/s/Samsung-HLN507W-TVs-review-manual/id/275dj989/t/1-2/
I'm not sure its ok to post the link Mr Scott. pls take it off if its improper with my apologies.
Just got back from Iraq this summer after buying the HLR5667WX 56"DLP in Sept 2005 (so I haven't watched it a lot)... screen went out about three weeks ago, called SAMSUNG which they let me know the 2 yr warranty expired Sept 07 (of course)... referred a repair company which never called. Had another guy come out who informed me it was likely the DMD board, but wanted to take the TV with him to "his shop"... sounded strange? Told him to call me back and we'll arrange working on it in the house... he never called back.
Working with another guy - a referral - who claims this replacement job could run up to $1000 and the quality on these TVs are just horrible (across a lot of brands that is for DLPs).
Thinking about just scrapping it and buying an LCD in the near future, any thoughts from you guys?
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You turn on your Samsung DLP and get a blinking message on the screen "CHECK FAN #2". You may also notice that the cooling fan in the back of the set turns on but then stops.
Here's the procedure from a reader (thanks Ernesto) who replaced this fan himself and told me about it.
First, the part number you need is as follows:
Fan #2 for the HLN4365WX (and other sets, see list below) is
Part Number: BP31-00001A Description: LAMP FAN ASSY
Where to buy: It costs about $40-45 on Partstore which is about $20 cheaper than elsewhere.
According to Partstore.com, it supports the following Samsung television models: HLM4365WX, HLN4365W1X, HLN467WX, HLN507WX/XAA, HLM437WX, HLN4365W1X/XAA, HLN5065W, HLN617W1X, HLM5065W, HLN4365WX, HLN5065W1X, HLN617WX, HLM5065WX, HLN4365WX/XAA, HLN5065W1X/XAA, HLN617WX/XA, HLM507WX, HLN437W, HLN5065WX, HLN617WX/XAA, HLM617WS, HLN437W1X, HLN5065WX/XAA, HLP5674WX/XAA, HLM617WS/XAA, HLN437W1X/XAA, HLN507W1X, HLR4677WX/XAA, HLM617WX, HLN437WX, HLN507WX, HLR5677WX/XAA, HLN4365W, HLN467W
This may seem expensive for a fan, but it actually has electronics in it to maintain speed and temperture. And apparently it can cry for help.
Getting the fan out is not trivial, though no more difficult than replacing the color wheel. In fact, to take the set apart, you'll wanto start with the process for replacing the color wheel.
Once you have the set open, you'll find the fan as seen in this picture.
There are two fans, and fan #2 is the larger one that is facing the back of the set. You can actually see it through the grates in the back of the set.
The fan itself is screwed into the black enclosure that can be seen in the above picture. It's difficult to impossible to unscrew the fan from that enclosure without sliding out the whole part as if we were replacing the color wheel. Once you slide that out, you can unscrew the black box with the screws in this picture.
This will free the box so you can access the fan screws.
All in all, a bit less involved than replacing the color wheel. While you're in here, you might want to locate the color wheel in case you do end up with that problem in the future.
Again, you can purchase the fan #2, part # BP31-00001A at Partstore.com.
Please comment here and let us know if you perform this procedure, and do fill us in on other details that may help others.