Second Bite Takes a Bite Out of Affiliates

by Scott Jangro on 07 December 2006

Second Bite Solutions is an online service provider that has an effective, patent-pending, technology that assists merchants in addressing the shopping cart abandonment problem. But is it at the expense of their traditional affiliates?

According to their website,

Second Bite approaches the problem by addressing the behavioral triggers displayed by consumers during the shopping process. Second Bite sends a series of personalized e-mail messages that gives the shopper the opportunity to review an order left in their shopping cart and reinitiate the check-out process from within the e-mail message. As the merchant, you have complete control over the timing and content of the e-mails, creating a timely and relevant messages – an important aspect in marketing your products to potential customers.

The merchant installs Second Bite’s technology into their shopping cart process where they capture the user information at the earliest possible point in order to keep a lifeline on the visitor in the case of shopping cart abandonment. Second Bite later sends one or more emails to the end user inviting and enticing them back to make the purchase.

Aggressive Techniques?

As a side note, it seems that Second Bite is taking some aggressive measures to identify the user. From reading their documentation and interviews they have given, it seems that they use AJAX to grab an email address that the user has typed into the form without even hitting the submit button. Thanks to AJAX, it’s not safe to type idly into web forms without the potential that your data is being transmitted anywhere the website owner wishes to, in this case, to Second Bite. Further, as the user’s browser is fetching the Javascript from Second Bite’s servers, they have an opportunity to read a cookie or IP address and attempt to identify the visitor using information they gathered from a different merchant. As a shopper, I’m not sure I’m comfortable with this.

In any case, this seems to be a very effective approach to saving a sale. SecondBite claims on their website that shopping cart abandonment can be as high as 75%, and that with their technology, they can increase sales by 3-6%. Or are they merely assisting in 3-6% of sales, some of which would have happened anyway? Still a worthwhile effort and expense for the merchant.

Also compelling to the merchant, they work on a performance basis. The merchant pays only when a sale is made. From their website,

Second Bite works as an affiliate of the merchant. We only get paid for recovering lost sales through our Order recovery application. There are no term commitments. So, we are highly motivated to help you succeed at recovering lost sales from abandoned orders.

Second Bite uses a merchant’s existing affiliate channel. It isn’t the first business model to piggy-back on affiliate marketing for a cheap and easy infrastructure and merchant integration.

This introduces a serious problem. It is potentially stepping on other affiliate marketers. If a merchant has any return-day policy at all (the number of days for which the visitor may make a purchase and the affiliate will still get commission), and most do, the introduction of this service effectively turns it to zero days, at least for users who enter the checkout process and abandon. The merchant is enabling and allowing one affiliate (Second Bite) to take the commission away from the other affiliate.

So while this is an effective way to save sales, it’s also an effective way to shift commissions from one affiliate to another.

Personally, I think that if this service offers the returns that Second Bite promises, without violating the privacy of their visitors (see insert), which is a whole separate issue, it is a pretty compelling service. But, like some other business models, it just doesn’t belong mixed into the traditional affiliate channel.

Merchants who use this service need to recognize the negative impact this will have on other affiliates, and at the very least, notify affiliates that it is in place. It is a similar policy as reducing return-days, and will affect an affiliate’s effective Earnings Per Click (EPC), and will cause some affiliates to look elsewhere for better offers.

Even better, if merchants could find a way to benefit from this service, or one like it, while STILL paying the traditional affiliate marketers their due, everybody wins.

ABestWeb – Second Bite, Super Affiliate or predator

  • Scott
    Hi JP.

    Any merchant worth their salt should be doing this for sure, but not at the jeopardy of their affiliates. At the very least, if there is ANYTHING that will overwrite cookies, they should make that clear in their program.
  • Scott,

    Interesting technology and I see your concern from the Affiliate perspective. However, any Merchant worth their salt can/should be doing this with their existing ecommerce platform or email service provider (ESP). I know the likes of CheetahMail enable their Clients to do this type of targeted re-marketing today. Frankly, any retailer of substance will have an existing relationship with an ESP. Any retailer would have to be asleep at the wheel to let Second Bite come inand pay them to do something they are already paying their ESP. The Second Bite is really out of the retailer's pocket.

    One last thing, the good news is that many retailers don't over-write last referred when coming from email so the referring Affiliate will most likely still get credit for the sale.
  • Sure, its a problem for affiliates -- but its a bigger problem for the merchants. May be I am living behind some curtain here, but I am watching my numbers on a daily basis.

    If conversions for a certain merchant/offer suddenly drop 25% and my profit margins evaporate, guess what, tommorow that merchant isn't going to see any more traffic from me. Chances are I'm not going to be the only one that does this.

    Merchants are the ones screwing themselves when they do things that kill conversion rates. Its the merchants that have large overhead expenses and employees. Sure, I'd like that extra $300 a day, but if it dissappears I can just shurg it off and start a new project. I don't know about you guys, but I've *never* lost any sleep over this stuff.
  • I think Dickie Boy's response is indicative of what affiliates will do, with or without any corroborating evidence to the contrary that Second Bite doesn't lose the affiliate's ID, they'll abandon the merchant.

    Second Bite must proactively prove and then aggreesively assert that they don't remove the affiliate's ID or else a really good tool for the merchant could fail before getting out of the gate.
  • Scott
    Jeff, I can only speak for myself but I understand the model completely.

    It's a problem to affiliates if they replace the cookie 1, 10 or 100% of the time.

    If I send you 1000 visitors and 50 of them abandon their shopping cart (for whatever reason -- doesn't mean they're not going to buy later), is it right that you hand them over to another affiliate automatically?

    How can you expect affiliates to feel good about a program that is going to lose some percentage of transactions?
  • Jeff,
    I think Scott touch on the fact if a merchant has 45 days cookies, second byte turns that into 1 day for affiliates. If visitors don't purchase the product the question is why the merchant did not close the deal? especially if they went as far as putting an item in the shopping cart. You say that Second Byte is earning their commission - Didn't the affiliate earn their commission as well by driving the traffic to the merchant?
  • Jeff
    I would think this would be a problem to affiliates if they replaced the cookie every time someone abandons regardless of any effort from their service, but I have spoken to someone at their company before for my own web store(which has a high abandon rate) and they ONLY get credit for a sale, if someone abandons, they identify them, they receive an email, AND click on that email to go back to the merchant's site. That seems like a pretty fair practice to me. They are earning their commission not stealing it like incentive programs or desktop.

    I, as a merchant, just think affiliates don't understand the model.

    My two cents.

    Jeff
  • Don't worry I am sure a directory of these merchants will appear very soon if there not one out there. There is a benefit to the merchant but at the expense of other affiliates... not so sure they are playing nice.
  • Is there anyway of identifying if a merchant is using 'second bite' software, as personally I would want to steer clear of any such merchant, as to my mind I don't want any of my affiliate marketing efforts to go in vain.
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